“The leads are sh*t.”

A phrase we hear all the time in the real estate industry.

Sure, almost every industry says the same thing but it’s especially popular in real estate. People invest a lot of time and money into leads and many are not seeing a return.

Paying to generate leads online can be like buying a boat. The famous adage, “The happiest days in a boatowner’s life are the day they buy the boat and the day they sell it.” For many, that’s how their experience is with real estate.

Yes, you can find success with online leads

Yet, there are a lot of people having great success with online leads. Taylor Hack is one of them. His team does 140+ transactions a year in Edmonton with an average production per agent of 31 deals and a remarkable amount of five-star reviews.

Hack has a strong background in sales and it shows with a team that logs thousands of dials each quarter. With a significant amount of their business coming from online leads, Hack has worked with industry leaders in conversion to build a healthy and sustainable business.

We looked at why people think online leads are sh*t and how to solve that problem 

We started getting to know each other at industry events and then online and became fast friends. He looks at things more from a sales-first angle and I, the marketing-first angle. We’ve had a lot of passionate conversations over the years — often about the intersection of sales and marketing in real estate.

We’ve looked at why people think online leads are sh*t and how to solve that problem. We started talking this year on Zoom about it more and more and inviting people on to listen to our conversations.

These conversations started getting great feedback from those who came to listen. So, we started promoting it a little bit here and there. The more people who attended live, the better the feedback we got.

We’ve brought a few other great people from the industry on and have had great conversations with them, too.

Now we’re taking it up a notch with a hybrid podcast, live talk show & radio call-in show

This show will be called “The Leads are Sh*t with Taylor Hack and Andrew Fogliato.”

Every week we’ll talk about different aspects of the business. Sometimes we’ll bring guests on with subject matter expertise. We’ll even give Hack things to put in place in his real estate business and he’ll report back on the results.

This isn’t a traditional podcast. It’s a hybrid podcast, live talk show and radio call-in show. If you join us live you can interact over the chat and ask questions, or you can even come on camera and ask a question live.

Have a problem in your business you’re stuck on? Ask.

Have an idea you want to brainstorm? Ask.

Have a topic you want us to discuss? Tell us.

Our goal is to have this be a place you can join every week to help your business. We also want it to be an open book. If we’re talking about an idea and it gets tested, we’ll tell you the results. If it’s an untested idea, we’ll tell you that too.

If we invite a guest on, it’s someone we know has something of value to contribute and does real business. We’d rather find the people running a great business — it’s not about who’s famous and “in”. Instead, we want to find great operators and learn from them.

So come join us, every Thursday at 2:00 pm EST. Attend live to see what we’re working on and what’s getting results. Ask questions, engage and have fun.

We’ve set it up as a recurring webinar so you just need to register once to get the link sent to you every week to join. We’ll be posting the replays on the Real Estate Magazine YouTube channel.

Click here to grab a spot and start joining us live. Looking forward to seeing you there!